Grey Snow Poker
Grey Snow Poker, the first real money online poker room owned by a Native American Tribe (Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma) is now open for business. Operated and licensed out of the Isle of Man, it is not open to residents of the United States. The site, called PokerTribe in a previous incarnation (the new name is cooler, if you ask me), has a long and odd history, but that is not what we are going to discuss today. Instead, let’s take a look at the site’s primary differentiator other than its ownership: its rake structure.
Fee Instead of Rake
On its homepage, Grey Snow Poker touts something called “FairPlay.” At first glance, it is certainly an attention-grabbing title, as “fairness” has become a focus of the online poker industry in recent years. Diving deeper, FairPlay is promoted by Grey Snow as a rake-free system for its online poker site.
Rake free? Though it has not worked when other sites have tried it, it is intriguing, since we would all like to play without having to pay the house. But alas, though Grey Snow Poker might technically not charge a rake, it is not a cost-free site.
Rather than take a rake from every pot, Grey Snow Poker uses a “service-fee model.” It is fairly simple: when a player leaves a cash game table, they are charged 3 percent of the amount of money they leave with. Thus, if a player sits down with $50, has a great session, doubles their money, and stands up with a stack of $100, they are charged $3 by Grey Snow.
Jun 01, 2020 Grey Snow Poker is a very new Poker Room, founded in late 2018. It is part of the BetConstruct Network with peak real money player numbers of around 350 on the weekends. The meagre traffic is one of the biggest weaknesses of Grey Snow Poker. Active tables can usually only be found at the lowest limits. Grey Snow Poker (GSP) is the first Native American site to operate under a gaming license issued by the Isle of Man Gambling Supervisory Commission and also the first tribe site to accept players internationally. The site went live on November 5 with a unique pricing model called “FairPlay” which removes the traditional rake from cash game pots.
Players who completely bust out are charged nothing since they have nothing when they leave the table.
An Attempt to Help Rec Players
The idea behind this is to add another obstacle that sharks need to hurdle to take advantage of novices or poor players. Grey Snow tries to put a scare into players in its explanation, talking about how “Artificial Intelligence” is used by pros against recreational players (we assume they are talking about HUDs and seating scripts are specifically mentioned), and while the site doesn’t explicitly say if third-party software is banned, it does use an auto-seat lobby, not allowing players to choose their own tables.
What the service fee aims to do is reduce the incentive for players to sit down, see that there are no “fish” to pick on (or conversely, see that there are a bunch of strong players at the table), and then leave. No matter how long a player sits, they are going to be charged 3 percent when they quit. People are incentivized to come to play poker, to stay for a while, as the longer they play at one table, the more value they get out of the fee.
Players are also refunded 1 percent of the amount of money they bring to the table once they leave.
It is an interesting idea and I definitely see what Grey Snow is trying to do, but I see a couple possible problems. First, the goal is to protect casual players, but casual players are generally going to want to play shorter sessions than pros. Thus, the fee could hurt casual players more than pros – something that Grey Snow likely did not intend. Second, it unnecessarily punishes players who get disconnected or who perhaps have to logoff sooner than planned (speaking from experience, dog pukes five minutes into my game). Third, it really screws over players who join a table only to have it break soon after they sit down.
Fourth and lastly, how does it work if someone busts and then reloads? If a player buys-in for $50, loses it all, then leaves, he pays no fee. But what if that player buys-in for $50, busts, then reloads for $50 and runs that stake up to $60 before leaving? He is still down $40 overall, but it sounds like he will be charged $1.80. I suppose it’s possible that Grey Snow took this into account, but there is no indication of that on the website.
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The Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma is the center of a Sovereign Nation with inherent powers of self-government recognized as such by treaties and legislation located in Perkins, OK. In the Iowa language, we call ourselves Baxoje (Bah Kho-je), meaning “People of the Grey Snow”. The story of our name has been handed down from generation to generation. It was told that at one time the Iowa Tribe was ‘1100’ strong, meaning the warriors or men numbered that many. When men had to leave our village, upon their return, they looked down from a rise and they saw that our village had been burned. At this point, we had lost some of the translation to the story – it could have been another tribe or others that had burned it. But it appeared as though the village was covered with “Grey Snow, ” even though the winter season was not upon us. For you see, the ashes had settled over the village site and all that was visible to the warriors were the burned remnants of what used to be our homes. Other versions of this story have been printed, but this is the one that we have been told.
The Iowas lived for the majority of its recorded history in what is now the state of Iowa, therefore, the state of Iowa takes its name after the Ioway people. Also, our language is of the Chiwere dialect of the Sioux Nation. We began as a Woodland culture, but because of the migration to the south and west, we began to pick up elements of the Plains Culture. In the earliest historical period of 1600, the Ioways (descendants of the Oneota), were in the area of the Red Pipestone Quarry in southwestern Minnesota. In 1730 they were found living in villages in the Lake Okoboji and Spirit Lake Region of Northwest Iowa. They moved south to the vicinity of Council Bluffs, Iowa. In the middle of the 18th century, part of them moved up along the Des Moines River. The remainder established themselves on the Grand and Platte Rivers in Missouri. In treaties, they ceded their claims to lands in Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota. The Treaty of 1836 assigned part of them to a reservation along the Great Nemaha River in Nebraska and Kansas. Later, some of the Ioways were moved to Indian Territory in Oklahoma. The original Iowa Reservation in Oklahoma was established by Executive Order dated August 15, 1883. The Iowa Nation is now divided into two tribes: The Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma located in Perkins, Oklahoma; and the Iowa Tribe of Kansas and Nebraska – their tribal headquarters are located in Whitecloud, Kansas.
The Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma is complete with its own constitution and bylaws. There are many aspects of the Tribal Government, all necessary to ensure the best for our tribal community and members. As of today, we have over 800 members enrolled within the tribe and a jurisdictional area covering all or parts of Payne, Oklahoma, Lincoln, and Logan counties. We are also the largest employer in the area with over 160 employees in several different departments, including Administration, Accounting departments for the various Tribal Enterprises (including three casinos spread throughout our jurisdiction), and a tribally-operated Police and Fire Department.
Mission of the Iowa Nation: “To improve the economic and social quality of life, for our tribal members and the adjacent communities.”
Iowa Tribal Headquarters is located 3 miles South of Perkins, Oklahoma & one half mile West of US highway 177. For more information, call us at (405) 547-2402.
335588 E. 750 Road • Perkins, OK 74059 • 405-547-2402 or 800-336-IOWA
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